From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (firstgate.proxmox.com [212.224.123.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by lists.proxmox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A04FC9266A for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2024 09:31:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7DBE41A41B for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2024 09:30:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from proxmox-new.maurer-it.com (proxmox-new.maurer-it.com [94.136.29.106]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2024 09:30:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from proxmox-new.maurer-it.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxmox-new.maurer-it.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3F97E425EE; Fri, 2 Feb 2024 09:30:30 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 09:30:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: "DERUMIER, Alexandre" , "pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com" References: <20240125144149.216064-1-f.ebner@proxmox.com> <20240125144149.216064-10-f.ebner@proxmox.com> <1526d2b1-d71d-4bb7-b085-a7e3f059b9c3@proxmox.com> <82c2862f6906fd697b6862cbc6db433de219a2d9.camel@groupe-cyllene.com> <919828da989cf0165642586779125db3ee68a5d7.camel@groupe-cyllene.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Fiona Ebner In-Reply-To: <919828da989cf0165642586779125db3ee68a5d7.camel@groupe-cyllene.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 AWL -0.073 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DMARC_MISSING 0.1 Missing DMARC policy KAM_DMARC_STATUS 0.01 Test Rule for DKIM or SPF Failure with Strict Alignment SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE -0.01 - Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [RFC guest-common 09/13] vzdump: schema: add fleecing property string X-BeenThere: pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE development discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2024 08:31:01 -0000 Am 01.02.24 um 22:33 schrieb DERUMIER, Alexandre: > >>> To clarify, with my "VM-specific" proposal I mean: The backup job >>> decides whether to use fleecing or not. The VM decides which storage >>> to >>> use for fleecing. > > > Personnaly, for my usage, I prefer to define fleecing storage in backup > job. (as we only define 1 backup storage in 1 job, and my problem to > solve is the slow backup storage). > > > > But Maybe, indeed, some users would like to choose "use same storage > than disk" , or choose a specific fleecing storage for a specific vm. > So, maybe add an extra override option in vm options or directly on > disk ? I really don't known :) > > Maybe try a simple option on backup job first, then add extra options > at vm level if users want it ? > Yes, I think I'll go that route for now. And require users to choose a specific storage instead of having a default. A default can still be added later. "Use same storage as disk" also has the issue of duplicating writes to the same storage with copy-before-write, which is not the best for performance either, especially for NFS/CIFS.