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Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH guest-common 1/1] vzdump: schema: add
 'notes' and 'protected' properties
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On 16.03.22 12:04, Fabian Ebner wrote:
> Am 16.12.21 um 13:12 schrieb Fabian Ebner:
>> In command_line(), notes are printed, quoted, but otherwise as is,
>> which is a bit ugly for multi-line notes. But it is part of the
>> commandline.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Fabian Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
>> ---
>>  src/PVE/VZDump/Common.pm | 14 +++++++++++++-
>>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/src/PVE/VZDump/Common.pm b/src/PVE/VZDump/Common.pm
>> index 83d7413..5bb35ec 100644
>> --- a/src/PVE/VZDump/Common.pm
>> +++ b/src/PVE/VZDump/Common.pm
>> @@ -233,7 +233,19 @@ my $confdesc = {
>>  	type => 'string',
>>  	description => 'Backup all known guest systems included in the specified pool.',
>>  	optional => 1,
>> -    }
>> +    },
>> +    notes => {
>> +	type => 'string',
>> +	description => "Notes to add to the backup(s).",
>> +	requires => 'storage',
>> +	optional => 1,
>> +    },
> 
> Quoting off-list discussion here, where it belongs and so we don't
> forget about it ;)
> 
> With regard to fixing https://bugzilla.proxmox.com/show_bug.cgi?id=438
> after all those years.
> 
> Fabian G.:
> we could offer something like a simple template system that allows
> substitution of certain variables (like name, or source node
> hostname/clustername, ..). or just a boolean switch for setting VM/CT
> $HOSTNAME from $CLUSTER/$NODENAME (or an enum, with
> [job-comment,hostname,long,none] where long is that, and hostname is
> just the guest hostname, and job-comment is the comment of the vzdump
> job if one is set)
> 
> Me:
> The template variant would be the most flexible one and would avoid the
> need for a second vzdump option besides --notes. Ideally, support for it
> would be there from the beginning though, as otherwise it will stop
> working for a user wanting to literally set $HOSTNAME when we add it ;)
> The downside is that it doesn't match the volume-level --notes option,
> but I don't think that should be a big deal.
> 
> Fabian G.:
> well it could just be called notes-template for vzdump to disambiguate?


fwiw, I believe I commented that approach in the internal chat a while ago,
but as its search functions are abysmal I don't find it anymore.

IIRC, just extend what we have now and allow a fixed set of {VARS} (vmid,
guest name, host name, job-id, ..?).

While extending one has a slight chance of changing an existing setup I find
this very unlikely in this specific case, as we had no such feature whatsoever
and it makes not sense in any practical example to use such special strings
for a backup comment.

That said, if one can whip up another reason besides backward compat for
having a separate flag to turn this on/off then feel free to comment.

I mean, for the backup jobs itself it could have some value to differ
between the comment about the job itself and a comment template for the
resulting backups.