From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (firstgate.proxmox.com [212.224.123.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.proxmox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 170EA96BA9 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2024 14:11:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id EAE7A19FA7 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2024 14:11:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from proxmox-new.maurer-it.com (proxmox-new.maurer-it.com [94.136.29.106]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2024 14:11:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from proxmox-new.maurer-it.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxmox-new.maurer-it.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1BE5045029 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2024 14:11:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <364a9ffc-526d-463c-8f88-7af276474cc0@proxmox.com> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 14:11:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: Thomas Lamprecht , Proxmox VE development discussion References: <20231107134928.81303-1-f.ebner@proxmox.com> <97871f55-1a09-42c7-a17e-42732223ecde@proxmox.com> <24e81908-5ae1-48c7-81a2-7fcb1a085be7@proxmox.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Fiona Ebner In-Reply-To: <24e81908-5ae1-48c7-81a2-7fcb1a085be7@proxmox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 AWL -0.070 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DMARC_MISSING 0.1 Missing DMARC policy KAM_DMARC_STATUS 0.01 Test Rule for DKIM or SPF Failure with Strict Alignment SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH-SERIES v3 manager/docs] close #4513: add performance tab for backup jobs X-BeenThere: pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE development discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 12:11:51 -0000 Am 16.04.24 um 12:16 schrieb Thomas Lamprecht: > Am 25/03/2024 um 15:09 schrieb Fiona Ebner: >> Am 07.11.23 um 14:49 schrieb Fiona Ebner: >>> Improve fallback for the 'performance' sub-properties by using a >>> per-property fallback and honor schema defaults. >>> >>> Expose commonly used performance-related properties in the backup job >>> UI under a new tab. >>> >> >> Ping. Still applies. I need to tell forum users how to do this via CLI >> rather frequently, so would be nice to have in the UI too. >> > > I do not like using "Performance" here, that conveys that this includes > important options that one must set to improve performance, and it's > settings won't help with overall performance (buy a "faster" HW for that). > > In short, while the name is not wrong in a technical sense, all knobs will > change performance on some axis, that's not really matching with user > expectations IMO. > > Even just calling this "Options" would be better IMO, even better might > be to call it "Advanced" and move also the single advanced option we > currently have ("Repeat missed" in General tab) over there. > > That way newer users are made aware off that these options are > definitively not a must to adapt to get good performance, but rather for > some advanced options for tuning/limiting/etc. ... Sounds good to me. Sent a v4 incorporating these suggestions: https://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pve-devel/2024-April/063004.html