From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (firstgate.proxmox.com [IPv6:2a01:7e0:0:424::9]) by lore.proxmox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52AD11FF168 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2024 10:46:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id EC05F2B873; Tue, 26 Nov 2024 10:46:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 10:45:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: Thomas Lamprecht , Proxmox Backup Server development discussion References: <20241118092435.81880-1-c.ebner@proxmox.com> <20241118092435.81880-2-c.ebner@proxmox.com> <5e5a54b1-3d33-402f-8033-089e63590b43@proxmox.com> <2f6448ed-e19d-4031-9636-2424c1e1bb75@proxmox.com> <5990610f-700c-45ed-b47c-06e214abc918@proxmox.com> Content-Language: en-US, de-DE From: Christian Ebner In-Reply-To: <5990610f-700c-45ed-b47c-06e214abc918@proxmox.com> X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 AWL 0.031 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DMARC_MISSING 0.1 Missing DMARC policy KAM_DMARC_STATUS 0.01 Test Rule for DKIM or SPF Failure with Strict Alignment RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED 0.001 ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to Validity was blocked. See https://knowledge.validity.com/hc/en-us/articles/20961730681243 for more information. RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED 0.001 ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to Validity was blocked. See https://knowledge.validity.com/hc/en-us/articles/20961730681243 for more information. RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED 0.001 ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to Validity was blocked. See https://knowledge.validity.com/hc/en-us/articles/20961730681243 for more information. SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record URIBL_BLOCKED 0.001 ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [proxmox.com] Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH docs 1/3] docs: explain the working principle of the change detection modes X-BeenThere: pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox Backup Server development discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Proxmox Backup Server development discussion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: pbs-devel-bounces@lists.proxmox.com Sender: "pbs-devel" On 11/26/24 10:22, Thomas Lamprecht wrote: > Am 26.11.24 um 08:29 schrieb Christian Ebner: >> On 11/25/24 22:09, Thomas Lamprecht wrote: >> Okay, will also add a short note that since the legacy mode and the two >> other modes use different archive formats, they do not reuse chunks as >> efficiently when using mixed modes on the same datastore. > > Fine I guess, but this wasn't really what I had in mind here, and I would > not "bad-mouth" your nice work here too much hehe. Well, no intention in bad mouthing it ;) Nevertheless, I would not refrain from mentioning this as there was some feedback regarding increased size usage after switching modes (cannot find the relevant forum thread at the moment). So letting users know that they might take a closer look at the datastore disk usage after switching to one of the new modes can only help. > In the forum there was just some confusion about three change-modes maybe > meaning three formats. I.e., more that the data one replaces the legacy one > with the benefit of being able to seamlessly switch to metadata mode and back > again, as both use the same archive format/structure. > >>> This mail is inspired a bit from the post I replied here: >>> >>> https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/proxmox-ve-8-3-released.157793/page-2#post-723212 > > ^- if my reply was (hopefully) somewhat clear maybe something of it can be > used as base. > I did already send a patch [0], but only loosely followed your reply in the forum thread. Maybe we can improve based on that? [0] https://lore.proxmox.com/pbs-devel/20241126085502.77438-1-c.ebner@proxmox.com/T/#u _______________________________________________ pbs-devel mailing list pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs-devel