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[itronic.at] Subject: [pbs-devel] Starting VM from Backup X-BeenThere: pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox Backup Server development discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 09:13:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --CEOqoKWyu3J6uEnYzjX33Esy9lHJOgUsk Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NYIQFhi6NgSIxXEJPIBM6uqnTPPI6y0l4"; protected-headers="v1" From: Harald Leithner To: pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com Message-ID: Subject: Starting VM from Backup --NYIQFhi6NgSIxXEJPIBM6uqnTPPI6y0l4 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0C4AE7022DCCCEFD39B0F930" Content-Language: en-GB This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0C4AE7022DCCCEFD39B0F930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, sorry if this is not the right place to ask. Is or will it be possible to start a VM directly from the PBS on a PVE=20 Node and make a storage migration while the VM is running? I'm using this at the moment with my own backup solution which is=20 basically ZFS with snapshots and Ceph Snapshots with some magic to=20 provide ready to go vm configs and disk images. For restore I clone the zfs snapshot and mount the images on the pve=20 node with samba. In case of single file restore I delete the clone=20 afterwards. In case of disaster recovery I use PVE storage motion to=20 move the disk to the final storage. Will such case be possible in PBS? 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