thanks

On 5/20/2022 1:43 AM, Thomas Lampre= cht wrote:

On 19/05/2022 12:28, Davi=
d Lawley wrote:

Off hand going to guess=
 moving backups to a namespace not an easy task?=C2=A0 Or maybe there =
is a way?

As long as the backups stay in the same datastore it's relatively easy=
,
as that's just moving around folders. For cross datastore you need to =
use
sync-to-local-remote for now, as otherwise data chunk can be missing.

You could do the following on the CLI, note that it'd be best to enabl=
e
the new offline maintenance mode to avoid interfering with the PBS dae=
mons,
as this example ignores locking completely.

# change pwd to datastore root dir, e.g.:
cd /mnt/datastore
# create the namespace "foo" manually (or via gui, which doesn't needs=
 the ns/ prefix)
mkdir -p ns/foo

# ensure folder have correct owners to avoid issues on prune/delete
chown -R backup:backup ns

# move all groups of type vm, ct and host
mv vm ct host ns/foo

# or, move just a single group:
# first create the backup group type in the NS, if not already presen
mkdir ns/foo/vm
chown -R backup:backup ns/foo/vm
# move the group
mv vm/101 ns/foo/vm/

# or a deeper namespace "foo/bar"
mkdir -p ns/foo/ns/bar
chown -R backup:backup ns

Adapted from my post in
=
https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/proxmox-backup-server-2-2-available.=
109724/page-2#post-471949

cheers,
Thomas

--=20


A quick word on style. I have none.
I have casual way of talking and writing, and a strange sense of humou=
r.=20
I also tend to use random pop-culture references a lot, but often in w=
ays that make no sense.=20
If this is a problem you are entitled to a refund of the money you pai=
d to me to write this... ;)

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See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [proxmox.com] Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] Proxmox Backup Server 2.2 available X-BeenThere: pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox Backup Server development discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 05:43:49 -0000 On 19/05/2022 12:28, David Lawley wrote: > Off hand going to guess moving backups to a namespace not an easy task? Or maybe there is a way? As long as the backups stay in the same datastore it's relatively easy, as that's just moving around folders. For cross datastore you need to use sync-to-local-remote for now, as otherwise data chunk can be missing. You could do the following on the CLI, note that it'd be best to enable the new offline maintenance mode to avoid interfering with the PBS daemons, as this example ignores locking completely. # change pwd to datastore root dir, e.g.: cd /mnt/datastore # create the namespace "foo" manually (or via gui, which doesn't needs the ns/ prefix) mkdir -p ns/foo # ensure folder have correct owners to avoid issues on prune/delete chown -R backup:backup ns # move all groups of type vm, ct and host mv vm ct host ns/foo # or, move just a single group: # first create the backup group type in the NS, if not already presen mkdir ns/foo/vm chown -R backup:backup ns/foo/vm # move the group mv vm/101 ns/foo/vm/ # or a deeper namespace "foo/bar" mkdir -p ns/foo/ns/bar chown -R backup:backup ns Adapted from my post in https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/proxmox-backup-server-2-2-available.109724/page-2#post-471949 cheers, Thomas From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (firstgate.proxmox.com [212.224.123.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.proxmox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7040B71931 for ; Thu, 19 May 2022 12:43:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 5E2D76CA3 for ; Thu, 19 May 2022 12:43:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.upilab.com (mail.upilab.com [199.38.221.195]) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CC3DD6C98 for ; Thu, 19 May 2022 12:43:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.1.129] (UnknownHost) by mail.upilab.com with SMTP; Thu, 19 May 2022 06:28:09 -0400 Message-ID: <5dc099cb-37ef-7eca-ff38-1502ec9ff8fa@upilab.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 06:28:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.9.0 Content-Language: en-US To: pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com References: <4934e0fe-26da-048e-973c-93c60ba3083b@proxmox.com> From: David Lawley In-Reply-To: <4934e0fe-26da-048e-973c-93c60ba3083b@proxmox.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 AWL 0.385 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% HTML_MESSAGE 0.001 HTML included in message KAM_DMARC_STATUS 0.01 Test Rule for DKIM or SPF Failure with Strict Alignment MIME_HTML_ONLY 0.1 Message only has text/html MIME parts NICE_REPLY_A -0.717 Looks like a legit reply (A) SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE -0.01 - URIBL_BLOCKED 0.001 ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. 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+1 on namespace feature!=C2=A0

Off hand going to guess moving backups to a namespace not an ea= sy task?=C2=A0 Or maybe there is a way?

On 5/18/2022 5:02 AM, Martin Maurer wrote:

Hi all,

We are excited to announce version 2.2 of our Proxmox Backup Server! It's based on Debian 11.3 (codename "Bullseye"), but usi= ng the newer Linux kernel 5.15, and including ZFS 2.1.4.

We have a new namespace feature which allows you to simplify backup management from multiple sources on-premises, remotely, a= nd in the cloud, by organizing backups into "namespaces" within a single datastore.

The new =E2=80=9Cread-only=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Coffline=E2=80=9D= maintenance modes allow for safer maintenance work on a datastore.

Countless bugfixes and smaller improvements are included as well= , see the full release notes for details.

A big THANK YOU to our community! We are really grateful for all the support and feedback, testing, bug reporting and patch submitting.

Release notes
https://pbs.proxmox.com= /wiki/index.php/Roadmap#Proxmox_Backup_Server_2.2

Press release
https://www.proxmox.com/en/news/press-rele= ases/

Video tutorial
https://www.proxmox.com/en/training/video-tutorials/item/what-s-new-i= n-proxmox-backup-server-2-2

Download
https://www.proxmox.com/downloads
Alternative ISO download:
https://enterprise.proxmox.com/iso

HELP & SUPPORT

Documentation
https://pbs.proxmox.com/docs

Community Forum
https://forum.proxmox.com

Bugtracker
https://bugzilla.proxmox.com

Source Code
https://git.proxmox.com

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

Q: Can I dist-upgrade Proxmox Backup Server 1.1 to 2.x with apt?
A: Please follow the upgrade instructions on https://pbs.proxmox.com/wik= i/index.php/Upgrade_from_1.1_to_2.x

Q: How does this integrate into Proxmox Virtual Environment?
A: Just add a Proxmox Backup Server datastore as a new storage target in your Proxmox VE. Make sure that you run the latest Proxmox VE 7.2.

Q: How do I install the proxmox-backup-client on my Debian or Ubuntu server?
A: We provide a "Proxmox Backup Client-only Repository", see https://pbs.proxmox.com= /docs/installation.html#client-installation

Q: What will happen with the existing backup tool (vzdump) in Proxmox Virtual Environment?
A: You can still use vzdump. The new backup is an additional, bu= t very powerful way to backup and restore your VMs and containers.

Q: Is there any recommended server hardware for the Proxmox Back= up Server?
A: We recommend enterprise-grade server hardware components, wit= h fast local SSD/NVMe storage. Access and response times from rotating drives will slow down all backup server operations. See https://pb= s.proxmox.com/docs/installation.html#recommended-server-system-require= ments

Q: Can I install Proxmox Backup Server on Debian, in a VM, as LX= C or alongside with Proxmox VE?
A: Yes, but all this is not the recommended setup (expert use only).

Q: Where can I get more information about upcoming features?
A: Follow the announcement forum and pbs-devel mailing list https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi= -bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs-devel, and subscribe to our newsletter https://www.proxmox.com/news.

--=20


A quick word on style. I have none.
I have casual way of talking and writing, and a strange sense of humou=
r.=20
I also tend to use random pop-culture references a lot, but often in w=
ays that make no sense.=20
If this is a problem you are entitled to a refund of the money you pai=
d to me to write this... ;)

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See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [proxmox.com] Subject: [pbs-devel] Proxmox Backup Server 2.2 available X-BeenThere: pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox Backup Server development discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 09:11:54 -0000 Hi all, We are excited to announce version 2.2 of our Proxmox Backup Server! It's based on Debian 11.3 (codename "Bullseye"), but using the newer Linux kernel 5.15, and including ZFS 2.1.4. We have a new namespace feature which allows you to simplify backup management from multiple sources on-premises, remotely, and in the cloud, by organizing backups into "namespaces" within a single datastore. The new “read-only” and “offline” maintenance modes allow for safer maintenance work on a datastore. Countless bugfixes and smaller improvements are included as well, see the full release notes for details. A big THANK YOU to our community! We are really grateful for all the support and feedback, testing, bug reporting and patch submitting. Release notes https://pbs.proxmox.com/wiki/index.php/Roadmap#Proxmox_Backup_Server_2.2 Press release https://www.proxmox.com/en/news/press-releases/ Video tutorial https://www.proxmox.com/en/training/video-tutorials/item/what-s-new-in-proxmox-backup-server-2-2 Download https://www.proxmox.com/downloads Alternative ISO download: https://enterprise.proxmox.com/iso HELP & SUPPORT Documentation https://pbs.proxmox.com/docs Community Forum https://forum.proxmox.com Bugtracker https://bugzilla.proxmox.com Source Code https://git.proxmox.com FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS Q: Can I dist-upgrade Proxmox Backup Server 1.1 to 2.x with apt? A: Please follow the upgrade instructions on https://pbs.proxmox.com/wiki/index.php/Upgrade_from_1.1_to_2.x Q: How does this integrate into Proxmox Virtual Environment? A: Just add a Proxmox Backup Server datastore as a new storage target in your Proxmox VE. Make sure that you run the latest Proxmox VE 7.2. Q: How do I install the proxmox-backup-client on my Debian or Ubuntu server? A: We provide a "Proxmox Backup Client-only Repository", see https://pbs.proxmox.com/docs/installation.html#client-installation Q: What will happen with the existing backup tool (vzdump) in Proxmox Virtual Environment? A: You can still use vzdump. The new backup is an additional, but very powerful way to backup and restore your VMs and containers. Q: Is there any recommended server hardware for the Proxmox Backup Server? A: We recommend enterprise-grade server hardware components, with fast local SSD/NVMe storage. Access and response times from rotating drives will slow down all backup server operations. See https://pbs.proxmox.com/docs/installation.html#recommended-server-system-requirements Q: Can I install Proxmox Backup Server on Debian, in a VM, as LXC or alongside with Proxmox VE? A: Yes, but all this is not the recommended setup (expert use only). Q: Where can I get more information about upcoming features? A: Follow the announcement forum and pbs-devel mailing list https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs-devel, and subscribe to our newsletter https://www.proxmox.com/news. -- Best Regards, Martin Maurer martin@proxmox.com https://www.proxmox.com