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From: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>
To: "Christian Ebner" <c.ebner@proxmox.com>,
	"Proxmox Backup Server development discussion"
	<pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
	"Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 12/29] api/api-types: refactor api endpoint version, add api types
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 13:42:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3082f27e-bea2-4dcb-a67c-be12a63e16eb@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9ccf5606-ff5a-4473-96b3-a9ea80ab0dcf@proxmox.com>

Am 21.11.24 um 17:15 schrieb Christian Ebner:
> On 11/21/24 17:01, Thomas Lamprecht wrote:
>> Am 21.11.24 um 10:58 schrieb Christian Ebner:
>>> On 11/21/24 10:23, Thomas Lamprecht wrote:
>>> Well, that is something I did not consider at all! So with that
>>> viewpoint, adding this to PBS specifically is surely not the best way.
>>> As discussed with Fabain off list, version based matching will be the
>>> best way forward here, and dropping the incompatibility check once EOL
>>> is reached.
>>
>> If we add such a thing that you proposed we should definitively get the
>> story somewhat straight w.r.t. how we want to handle this for all projects,
>> and define when to define a feature and when not, with some extra care on
>> the interfaces, as those are relatively set in stone.
> 
> Regarding this, have we considered exposing the API schema to the 
> client, something like [0]?

Well, if, I'd go for the JSON schema directly (i.e., like our API viewer
consumes) and yes IIRC there weere some very informal/shallow talks about
this once or twice in the last five years or so IIRC, but nothing came out
of it.

> Fetching the remote API schema and therefore knowing which parameters 
> are available would have not only covered the additional check, but also 
> allowed to see what response value to expect.

As long as the schema is somewhat complete (a bit better for PBS/rust, not
perfect for PVE)

> 
> Although, I guess this boils down to the same set of maintenance burden 
> in the end, hard to maintain code because of to many condition checks.

That API would be auto-generated and only the client side would take the
burden of checking, and that would not be so bad.
If done nicely and such that general tooling can work with it we would
also help external API consumers a lot.

But IMO a bigger project, at least if we want to have most uses cases
covered and implemented honor industry standards closely.


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  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-22 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-31 12:14 [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 00/29] fix #3044: push datastore to remote target Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:14 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 01/29] client: backup writer: refactor backup and upload stats counters Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:14 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 02/29] client: backup writer: factor out merged chunk stream upload Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:14 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 03/29] client: backup writer: allow push uploading index and chunks Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:14 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 04/29] config: acl: refactor acl path component check for datastore Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:14 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 05/29] config: acl: allow namespace components for remote datastores Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:14 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 06/29] api types: add remote acl path method for `BackupNamespace` Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:14 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 07/29] api types: implement remote acl path method for sync job Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:14 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 08/29] api types: define remote permissions and roles for push sync Christian Ebner
2024-11-06 11:58   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-10-31 12:14 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 09/29] datastore: move `BackupGroupDeleteStats` to api types Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 10/29] api types: implement api type for `BackupGroupDeleteStats` Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 11/29] datastore: increment deleted group counter when removing group Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 12/29] api/api-types: refactor api endpoint version, add api types Christian Ebner
2024-11-06 11:57   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-11-20 16:27     ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-11-20 17:34       ` Christian Ebner
2024-11-21  9:23         ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-11-21  9:38           ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-11-21  9:58           ` Christian Ebner
2024-11-21 16:01             ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-11-21 16:15               ` Christian Ebner
2024-11-22 12:42                 ` Thomas Lamprecht [this message]
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 13/29] fix #3044: server: implement push support for sync operations Christian Ebner
2024-11-06 11:57   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-11-07  9:27     ` Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 14/29] api types/config: add `sync-push` config type for push sync jobs Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 15/29] api: push: implement endpoint for sync in push direction Christian Ebner
2024-11-06 15:10   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-11-07  9:18     ` Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 16/29] api: sync: move sync job invocation to server sync module Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 17/29] api: config: Require PRIV_DATASTORE_AUDIT to modify sync job Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 18/29] api: config: factor out sync job owner check Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 19/29] api: sync jobs: expose optional `sync-direction` parameter Christian Ebner
2024-11-06 15:20   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-11-07  9:10     ` Christian Ebner
2024-11-07  9:40       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 20/29] api: admin: avoid duplicate name for list sync jobs api method Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 21/29] bin: manager: add datastore push cli command Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 22/29] ui: group filter: allow to set namespace for local datastore Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 23/29] ui: sync edit: source group filters based on sync direction Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 24/29] ui: add view with separate grids for pull and push sync jobs Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 25/29] ui: sync job: adapt edit window to be used for pull and push Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 26/29] ui: sync view: set proxy on view instead of model Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 27/29] api: datastore/namespace: return backup groups delete stats on remove Christian Ebner
2024-11-21  9:27   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-11-21 10:00     ` Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 28/29] api: version: add 'prune-delete-stats' as supported feature Christian Ebner
2024-10-31 12:15 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 29/29] docs: add section for sync jobs in push direction Christian Ebner
2024-11-21 16:05   ` Maximiliano Sandoval
2024-11-11 15:46 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 00/29] fix #3044: push datastore to remote target Christian Ebner

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