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Hello,
We have a need for a non-network based (i.e. hypercall / out-of-band) file =
browser for containers and VMs within the pve-manager web UI. I'd like to b=
e able to select a VM or container, click "More", and choose "File manager"=
and then browse the VM or container's file systems and upload or download =
files from my local system, through the web-browser.
For VMs (qemu), the qemu-guest-agent provides the ability to read/write gue=
st files, and the pve API exposes it (with strict file size limits) as node=
s->{node}->qemu->{vmid}->agent->file-*. Presumably, a web UI file manager w=
ould use that API endpoint, plus maybe an enhancement for directory listing=
and chunked upload/download (to support arbitrary size files).
For containers (LXC), the pct application can read/write files by (I think)=
mounting the container root file system on the host and touching it direct=
ly. But there's no corresponding API endpoint. If there were, it could be u=
sed by a future web UI file manager.
So to implement this feature, I think there are 5 steps:
1. Enhance the qemu-guest-agent and qm to support reading directory stru=
cture and creating directories.
2. Enhance the pve API to expose these new features like file-read and f=
ile-write.
3. Enhance the pve API to support chunked file read and write, for large=
files. Maybe also requiring an enhancement to the qemu-guest-agent?
4. Enhance the pve API to support chunked file read/write, whole file re=
ad/write, and directory structure/creating directories (through direct file=
system interaction on the host).
5. Write a JS front-end file manager, invokable from the Other menu, whi=
ch uses these new/enhanced API endpoints to implement a general purpose out=
-of-band file manager.
Is there interest from the proxmox developers for something like this? If w=
e started working on some of these items, would there be interest in accept=
ing patches? Does my general approach look sound?
(We also investigated using SPICE's folder-sharing capabilities and the spi=
ce-proxy provided by the host, but that doesn't work with the Windows virt-=
viewer client, only the Linux client. It looks like there was some interest=
in the past in enhancing xterm.js to support xmodem file transfer, but it =
didn't go far.)
Regards,
Nathan Blythe
CACI
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