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Hi Fiona,

Thank you for helping me out and sorry for my late response.

The issue is that right now to work with PVE we have to do the following:

1) Connect via SSH to the PVE node and deploy a helper virtual machine (so =
that users don't have to do it manually)
2) Access the Proxmox VE API to perform other backup-related tasks (those t=
hat cannot be done via SSH)

In item #1 - the new VM deployment involved usage of root/sudo.

In item #2 - certain tasks that are performed via API also require root/sud=
o. We have managed to move those to the SSH part of the workflow, so now us=
ers can use one non-root account to perform all necessary operations (inste=
ad of using root or having to use two separate accounts).

We think that in future there might be a situation where we might need a su=
peruser level of privileges while accessing the API, and there will be no w=
orkaround to move the operation to the SSH part of the workflow. This will =
result in forcing our joint users to use 'root' account again, which they h=
ate to do and also deem as an not secure practice.

I hope that helps. If there is anything else what we could do from out side=
 please let me know.

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 09:59
To: Proxmox VE development discussion
Cc: Pavel Tide
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] Bug 2582 roadmap

Hi Pavel,

Am 10.09.24 um 12:18 schrieb Pavel Tide via pve-devel:
> Hi Proxmox team,
>
> Would you provide any delivery estimates on this item?
> https://bugz/
> illa.proxmox.com%2Fshow_bug.cgi%3Fid%3D2582&data=3D05%7C02%7CPavel.TIde%
> 40veeam.com%7C9fbe3a27cdb746e4522e08dcd3c9f802%7Cba07baab431b49edadd7c
> bc3542f5140%7C1%7C0%7C638618111644860239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWI
> joiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7
> C%7C&sdata=3DrnV7UTTM7GUpysGbgpLRfGDOA7xtwoACZXoq7N9anNg%3D&reserved=3D0
>
> As far as I understand it's been implemented already, but currently stays=
 in the development branch - our lab is up to date and yet we don't see how=
 we can create a separate non-root account to work with PVE cluster.
>

a patch series had been proposed, but the implementation was not finished A=
FAIK, see Fabian's review[0]. Since Oguz left the company, nobody else has =
picked up work on the series yet. Maybe you can describe what exactly your =
use case is, which privileges you'd need in particular. Of course, proposin=
g patches for what you need (or a rebased version of Oguz's full series) is=
 welcome too :)

[0]:
https://lore.proxmox.com/pve-devel/1658908014.zeyifvlr1o.astroid@nora.none/

Best Regards,
Fiona



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