From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (firstgate.proxmox.com [212.224.123.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by lists.proxmox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77906605EC for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:51:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 65CFC6AD3 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:51:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-il1-x130.google.com (mail-il1-x130.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::130]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTPS id C23306AC5 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:51:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-il1-x130.google.com with SMTP id o1so12216293ilo.6 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 11:51:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Z/XrSZGEJKYKMADtS/irzA+NszwCQLrQqHVvjmozoVo=; b=eSLWusQzDbgXIk/HX2GpLC8obwb3wfdW9kaNW/S2jxoT9OhU4jswL0Swzp2OZPJLpl HB1BUhETylkdd+yXHFtkVau7hSMmHEKIGkE97zI3fng5NO/KYh5NQbE/1Ry0C+JNnMEX G7nhi3S9LW5zkQx5ZHypwZvk/O0KyAaJX3RI020RWuDmcwZEHYaMQ3E8jPgmOPtwW3MX 8BqXEcYna1GzrJsI/i/UOM0dsEH718orIxZ3qW+OgsDOkoejFvOmQzD9Prn1OGpbuq70 IeD+00j2g1PVsg73BpGZDHDnmLsw+HZI58ZQFcgf5w0LR5svFJuFUKIe7IxjpKW3sdoO jcwA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Z/XrSZGEJKYKMADtS/irzA+NszwCQLrQqHVvjmozoVo=; b=RwyK7suC8clN9ZJIMFJz2B6iKVVNzwqdDPsVpz9u+G5pEz0GXgmcip0XD7s58GOg2F QeSSpizKXf6dhN/t6coXi0QBrtyrDWnK5nliz3XkbgMbqUum7iqjigeTQHb1rkNVEwwQ MOjVHDkL6hHl2ns/oQsRcWPMkurPPl0lV52xEQ3ynygn0nb8qIddMqjRX4bpdTqyuQ1O z97sYQni839g6BKSrASDIQImQF8Gsvcs9WNODlSH+b1selYuu/TJbI+qTR7hsS8gWAil rMXmCfrn1uKWD+unYjDOdmzSiejih8kztIwMeWNN5JPNUPYb9Zm0wK2IHNkephiaUfPI S4Ag== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530kx5uzIvqdEuisuJQpBSNEkeuRslBnFdTRaNFfwWVIkiibQ1xc h+Q+1J06vptHRPy9FAmLNjWlqtBiJP20MoWqWWjmTxgM X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxYMkl3/rxVZeACKmtmurbEei/3bEFuguG9USuTBoClOlsUOm8GczUQvwHZrV+CSLIqVVqYzjn84Pt/RDtIJfM= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:180c:: with SMTP id a12mr779122ilv.35.1641844259236; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 11:50:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220110141350.716d9727@schleppmd.hlrs.de> In-Reply-To: <20220110141350.716d9727@schleppmd.hlrs.de> From: Kyle Schmitt Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:50:48 -0600 Message-ID: To: Proxmox VE user list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain DKIM_VALID_EF -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain FREEMAIL_FROM 0.001 Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE -0.0001 Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox and ZFS on large JBOD ? X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 19:51:37 -0000 I would separate it out. I'm running a moderate sized ZFS array on one box, with a small 10GB ethernet network dedicated to serving NFS from that array to my proxmox nodes. I had bonded 1G before for the same setup, and usually it was a non-issue, but sometimes there was a slowdown. With 10G no slowdown on my workloads. I haven't explored serving ZFS from linux, so mine is on FreeBSD, and it's rock solid. --Kyle On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 7:21 AM Martin Dziobek wrote: > > Hi pve-users ! > > Does anybody has experiences if proxmox works > flawlessly to manage a large zfs volume consisting > of a SAS-connected JBOD of 60 * 1TB-HDDs ? > > Right now, management is done with a regular > Debian 11 installation, and rebooting the thing > always ends up in a timeout mess at network startup, > because it takes ages to enumerate all those member disks, > import the zpool and export it via NFS. > > I am considering to install Proxmox on this server for the > sole purpose of smooth startup and management operation. > Might that be a stable solution ? > > Best regards, > Martin > > > _______________________________________________ > pve-user mailing list > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user >