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X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user.lists.proxmox.com> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/options/pve-user>, <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pve-user/> List-Post: <mailto:pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> List-Help: <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user>, <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 17:10:25 -0000 Alejandro , thanks for your words. Let me explain: About live migration ... yes I think this is what I need to achieve. So basically you can "drag and drop" VMs from one node to another ? What do I need to achieve this ? / Only have one node. My current pve bos is in production with very important machines running on it. I will add a second pve server machine soon. But , I dont have any network storage , so the question would be: Having two pve machines (already running and fresh one) is it possible to perform live migrations? or is it mandatory to have an intermediate hardware or something like that? Regards, Leandro. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm_c= ampaign=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Dwebmail> Libre de virus. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm_c= ampaign=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Dwebmail> <#m_-8318222231522076233_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> El lun, 30 nov 2020 a las 13:45, Alejandro Bonilla via pve-user (< pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>) escribi=C3=B3: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Alejandro Bonilla <abonilla@suse.com> > To: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 16:45:29 +0000 > Subject: Re: [PVE-User] moving machines among proxmoxs servers. > > > > On Nov 30, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Leandro Roggerone < > leandro@tecnetmza.com.ar> wrote: > > > > Hi guys. > > Just wondering if is it possible to move machines without outage ? > > I thought at first you were referring to a live-migration which is easy t= o > achieve > > 64 bytes from 10.0.0.111: icmp_seq=3D25 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.363 ms > 64 bytes from 10.0.0.111: icmp_seq=3D26 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.397 ms > 64 bytes from 10.0.0.111: icmp_seq=3D27 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.502 ms > Request timeout for icmp_seq 28 > 64 bytes from 10.0.0.111: icmp_seq=3D29 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.366 ms > 64 bytes from 10.0.0.111: icmp_seq=3D30 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.562 ms > 64 bytes from 10.0.0.111: icmp_seq=3D31 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.469 ms > > And certainly happens with little to no outage. > > > What do I need to achieve this ? > > More than one node (cluster), storage, then perform a migration=E2=80=A6 = using > storage like Ceph will make the migration way faster. > > > Currently have only one box ... > > And then I got confused. Are you trying to migrate from another hyperviso= r > or you are just asking if it=E2=80=99s possible at all and then would add= another > box? > > > Thanks. > > Leandro. > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Alejandro Bonilla via pve-user <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> > To: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> > Cc: Alejandro Bonilla <abonilla@suse.com> > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 16:45:29 +0000 > Subject: Re: [PVE-User] moving machines among proxmoxs servers. > _______________________________________________ > pve-user mailing list > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm_c= ampaign=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Dwebmail> Libre de virus. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm_c= ampaign=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Dwebmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>