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[167.179.176.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w21sm5317077pjy.52.2021.04.10.07.06.27 for <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 10 Apr 2021 07:06:29 -0700 (PDT) To: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com References: <ddef627d-5c5f-1358-4a9f-196ef5868e6e@gmail.com> <mailman.236.1618062258.359.pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> From: Lindsay Mathieson <lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> Message-ID: <90b0f7df-ca15-f9cd-b76a-0f8f26e24917@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 00:06:19 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <mailman.236.1618062258.359.pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 AWL 0.042 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain DKIM_VALID_EF -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain FREEMAIL_FROM 0.001 Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider NICE_REPLY_A -0.001 Looks like a legit reply (A) RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE -0.0001 Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record Subject: Re: [PVE-User] PBS Incremental and stopped VM's X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user.lists.proxmox.com> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/options/pve-user>, <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pve-user/> List-Post: <mailto:pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> List-Help: <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user>, <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 14:06:38 -0000 On 10/04/2021 11:43 pm, Arjen via pve-user wrote: > Just to be clear: PBS always makes a full backup. The resulting data is deduplicated (before sending it to the server), which almost always reduces the writes to the server. Ah, I see now, thanks, I didn't understand that part of things. Looking at the logs of my 2nd backup, I see that stopped VM's had zero bytes written to the backup server. -- Lindsay