From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gate001.proxmox.com (gate001.proxmox.com [45.144.208.40]) by lore.proxmox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45F371FF13A for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2026 14:43:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gate001.proxmox.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gate001.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 00D2B214BE; Wed, 22 Jul 2026 14:43:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <7bfac3b3-71d3-4720-a1c5-5fa0c035765e@proxmox.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2026 14:43:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH proxmox-backup 1/1] faq: add warning about using apt upgrade To: Nicolas Frey , pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com References: <20260709142549.362886-1-n.frey@proxmox.com> Content-Language: en-US, de-DE From: Christian Ebner In-Reply-To: <20260709142549.362886-1-n.frey@proxmox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bm-Milter-Handled: 55990f41-d878-4baa-be0a-ee34c49e34d2 X-Bm-Transport-Timestamp: 1784724157802 X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 AWL 0.183 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address DMARC_MISSING 0.1 Missing DMARC policy KAM_DMARC_STATUS 0.01 Test Rule for DKIM or SPF Failure with Strict Alignment (newer systems) RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW -0.7 Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record Message-ID-Hash: ZLT5SDLS6EYRUOJRQFGHBAPXTF3G5X7A X-Message-ID-Hash: ZLT5SDLS6EYRUOJRQFGHBAPXTF3G5X7A X-MailFrom: c.ebner@proxmox.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox Backup Server development discussion List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 7/9/26 4:26 PM, Nicolas Frey wrote: > as it has increasingly come up in enterprise support and is generally an > easy foot gun for people coming from other Debian-based distros. > > Signed-off-by: Nicolas Frey > --- > > Notes: > A similar patch that adds this warning was recently applied to PVE, > see commit 86bddb2e3d39 in `pve-docs` for more context > > docs/faq.rst | 6 ++++++ > 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) > > diff --git a/docs/faq.rst b/docs/faq.rst > index 4ae4573c5..e9ba32609 100644 > --- a/docs/faq.rst > +++ b/docs/faq.rst > @@ -48,6 +48,12 @@ through the CLI with: > apt update > apt full-upgrade > > +.. warning:: As Proxmox Backup Server uses a rolling release model on > + top of Debian, performing an `apt upgrade` may result in a partially > + upgraded or broken package state. This is because `apt full-upgrade` > + can also remove existing packages to satisfy dependencies if needed, > + while `apt upgrade` cannot. > + > .. note:: Always ensure you correctly setup the > :ref:`package repositories ` and only > continue with the actual upgrade if `apt update` did not hit any error. Pondered shortly if it would make sense to combine the warning and note, but since the contained information is tangentially related only and if one reads the warning most likely also the note below let's leave them separate. Acked-by: Christian Ebner