From: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>
To: Lukas Wagner <l.wagner@proxmox.com>,
Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>,
pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com, pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH pve-storage 7/7] api: add /nodes/<node>/storage/<storage>/identity route
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 01:05:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c51c1d2-76ca-45a5-9356-097bcaccf1cb@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DI0FD9593NZF.3BFAH9TPYVSM4@proxmox.com>
Am 23.04.26 um 11:24 schrieb Lukas Wagner:
> One last point, but maybe I'm overthinking this:
>
> To me, the { type: "<plugin>", id: "<string" } approach kind of implies that
> this ID would uniquely identify the PBS instance *as well as* the
> datastore/namespace, which it does not at the moment.
>
> Would you think that it would make sense for PBS storage plugin to
> maybe combine the datastore, namespace and the
> pbs-instance-id into a single identifier here?
>
> Maybe something like, in pseudo-regex
>
> <datastore>(/<namespace>)?@<pbs-instance-id>
>
> e.g. store/some/name/space@dade89fe26104bc3858ae719c23594a7
>
> This would then actually uniquely identify the PBS storage (as in, two
> storages with the same ID should always point to the same content),
> while still allowing PDM to parse the identifier to retrieve the
> pbs-instance-id, if needed.
Fair point but I'd keep `id` scoped to the server instance though,
because:
- The pve-storage entry already pins datastore + namespace via
storage.cfg, so a caller that knows which pve-storage it queried has
those two from local context. Callers doing content-level matching
anyway start from a specific (datastore, namespace) target, so once
the instance ids line up the rest just falls out of the storage (or
e.g. PBS remote) config. Baking datastore + namespace into `id` mostly
duplicates what the caller already has and I'm not really a of such
packed strings (reminds me of PBS' backup repo syntax I recently split
up for better UX, albeit here it at least wouldn't be handled by the
user directly)
- Content-location identity as a general plugin contract is also
awkward: not every storage type decomposes into a "server + container
+ sub-path" shape.
So the contract should IMO rather stay "`id` identifies the server/service
instance", which matches PDM's verification use. If auxiliary fields turn
out to be useful later, `{ type, id, ... }` extends additively without
breaking anyone, and I'd have nothing against adding datastore and
namespace as extra (nested) fields there if you strongly prefer that and
it really helps, but I would prefer to not "cram" it in the (instance) id.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-23 23:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-15 11:58 [PATCH common/proxmox{,-backup}/storage 0/7] establish unique instance-id for PBS nodes Lukas Wagner
2026-04-15 11:58 ` [PATCH proxmox 1/7] pbs-api-types: add ServerIdentity response type Lukas Wagner
2026-04-15 11:58 ` [PATCH proxmox 2/7] systemd: add support for machine-id generation Lukas Wagner
2026-04-15 11:58 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 3/7] api: add /nodes/localhost/server-identity Lukas Wagner
2026-04-15 11:58 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 4/7] client: add 'server-identity' sub-command Lukas Wagner
2026-04-15 11:58 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 5/7] manager: add 'server-identity' subcommand Lukas Wagner
2026-04-15 11:58 ` [PATCH common 6/7] pbs-client: add support for the 'server-identity' command Lukas Wagner
2026-04-15 11:58 ` [PATCH pve-storage 7/7] api: add /nodes/<node>/storage/<storage>/identity route Lukas Wagner
2026-04-17 8:54 ` Fiona Ebner
2026-04-17 9:11 ` Lukas Wagner
2026-04-21 12:35 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-21 13:07 ` Lukas Wagner
2026-04-21 13:52 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-21 14:06 ` Christian Ebner
2026-04-22 7:48 ` Lukas Wagner
2026-04-22 15:13 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-23 9:25 ` Lukas Wagner
2026-04-23 23:05 ` Thomas Lamprecht [this message]
2026-04-24 6:56 ` Lukas Wagner
2026-04-21 12:20 ` [PATCH common/proxmox{,-backup}/storage 0/7] establish unique instance-id for PBS nodes Christian Ebner
2026-04-24 8:31 ` superseded: " Lukas Wagner
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