From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com> Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (firstgate.proxmox.com [212.224.123.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.proxmox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6272A63A90 for <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:04:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 57FC516B49 for <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:04:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from proxmox-new.maurer-it.com (proxmox-new.maurer-it.com [212.186.127.180]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTPS id 7D19016B3B for <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:04:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from proxmox-new.maurer-it.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxmox-new.maurer-it.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 49BEC42585; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:04:41 +0200 (CEST) To: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>, Mark Schouten <mark@tuxis.nl> References: <c84ac772-d577-27fd-710c-293d8a4baffe@proxmox.com> <c51e8cf4-1c6d-051b-f91d-5d600a566c5a@proxmox.com> <c522fc9b-6b3f-7770-d32a-c1bb47961884@merit.unu.edu> <1514606299.525.1594478405167@webmail.proxmox.com> <16057806.272035.1594737045788.JavaMail.zimbra@odiso.com> <0852a3fa-ab39-d551-5a01-0264687d4b56@proxmox.com> <1788232040.275836.1594761436288.JavaMail.zimbra@odiso.com> <b06df320-fb8b-7627-6d49-96ff59be7aa0@proxmox.com> <mailman.204.1594849027.12071.pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> <20200716101727.n3fueyopc3cvxgtt@olga.proxmox.com> <20200716143611.hedfflblkfwmr4o7@shell.tuxis.net> From: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com> Message-ID: <6a1adf6a-6bfa-10c3-c484-375bd5a9fde6@proxmox.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:04:40 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200716143611.hedfflblkfwmr4o7@shell.tuxis.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 AWL 0.008 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address KAM_DMARC_STATUS 0.01 Test Rule for DKIM or SPF Failure with Strict Alignment NICE_REPLY_A -0.001 Looks like a legit reply (A) RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED -2.3 Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox Backup Server (beta) X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user.lists.proxmox.com> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/options/pve-user>, <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pve-user/> List-Post: <mailto:pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> List-Help: <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user>, <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:04:42 -0000 On 16.07.20 16:36, Mark Schouten wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:17:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Bumiller wrote: >> b) block-based backups >> - VMs on PVE >> >> This stores whole disks, and we include a way to "attach" a disk from >> a backup to a VM (may even be hotplugged). Just imagine this like >> using a .raw disk image from any other remote storage such as NFS. If >> your guest operating system can read it, you can do whatever from >> inside the guest. > > When you say 'we include a way', you mean you are going to include it? > This isn't yet available, right? Sure is ;-) Disclaimer: not to deeply tested yet though. https://git.proxmox.com/?p=pve-qemu.git;a=blob;f=debian/patches/pve/0044-PVE-Add-PBS-block-driver-to-map-backup-archives-into.patch;h=855cc2207aea67fab330f2a205ddb92322bd4fb0;hb=3499c5b45a30a3489ca0d688d2d391fdfe899861#l116 Short procedure example to use it could look somewhat like: # modprobe nbd # export PBS_PASSWORD='12345supersecure!!!' # export PBS_FINGERPRINT=00:b4:b5:50... (above could be also passed directly as option, but well) # proxmox-backup-client list --repository root@pam@192.168.1.10:datastore # qemu-nbd --connect=/dev/nbd0 -f raw -r pbs:repository=root@pam@192.168.1.10:datastore,snapshot=vm/108/2020-07-14T09:03:47Z,archive=drive-scsi0.img.fidx # lsblk /dev/nbd0 # mkdir /mnt/test # mount /dev/nbd0 /mnt/test