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Subject: Re: [PVE-User] get the most of storage for a very old dell pe 2950.
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shouldn't it be possible to replace existing controller with
crossflashed perc h310 + sff-8484/sff-8087 cable=C2=A0 and you're done wit=
h
the disk / hotswap limitation ?

roland

Am 19.04.21 um 15:38 schrieb Marco Gaiarin:
> Mandi! Leandro Roggerone
>    In chel di` si favelave...
>
>> What about hot replace / remove or insert a new drive ?
>> Will it work without service disruption in production environments ?
> AFAIk no.
>
> If i remember well, Linux SCSI/SATA subsystem have support for the hot-s=
wap,
> but need also the support for the controller/cage/backpane/...
>
> So, basically, switching to JBOD/Passthroug, you lost host-swap.
>