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[qemu.org, wikipedia.org, rust-lang.org, proxmox.com] Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox Backup Server (beta) X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user.lists.proxmox.com> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/options/pve-user>, <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pve-user/> List-Post: <mailto:pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> List-Help: <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user>, <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:47:57 -0000 great to hear! :) one technical/performance question - will delta backup be i/o efficient ( like VMWare cbt ) ? regards roland Am 10.07.20 um 12:56 schrieb Martin Maurer: > We are proud to announce the first beta release of our new Proxmox > Backup Server. > > It's an enterprise-class client-server backup software that backups > virtual machines, containers, and physical hosts. It is specially > optimized for the Proxmox Virtual Environment platform and allows you > to backup and replicate your data securely. It provides easy > management with a command line and web-based user interface, and is > licensed under the GNU Affero General Public License v3 (GNU AGPL, v3). > > Proxmox Backup Server supports incremental backups, deduplication, > compression and authenticated encryption. Using Rust > https://www.rust-lang.org/ as implementation language guarantees high > performance, low resource usage, and a safe, high quality code base. > It features strong encryption done on the client side. Thus, it=E2=80=99= s > possible to backup data to not fully trusted targets. > > Main Features > > Support for Proxmox VE: > The Proxmox Virtual Environment is fully supported and you can easily > backup virtual machines (supporting QEMU dirty bitmaps - > https://www.qemu.org/docs/master/interop/bitmaps.html) and containers. > > Performance: > The whole software stack is written in Rust > https://www.rust-lang.org/, to provide high speed and memory efficiency. > > Deduplication: > Periodic backups produce large amounts of duplicate data. The > deduplication layer avoids redundancy and minimizes the used storage > space. > > Incremental backups: > Changes between backups are typically low. Reading and sending only > the delta reduces storage and network impact of backups. > > Data Integrity: > The built in SHA-256 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2 checksum > algorithm assures the accuracy and consistency of your backups. > > Remote Sync: > It is possible to efficiently synchronize data to remote sites. Only > deltas containing new data are transferred. > > Compression: > The ultra fast Zstandard compression is able to compress several > gigabytes of data per second. > > Encryption: > Backups can be encrypted on the client-side using AES-256 in > Galois/Counter Mode (GCM > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galois/Counter_Mode). This authenticated > encryption mode provides very high performance on modern hardware. > > Web interface: > Manage Proxmox backups with the integrated web-based user interface. > > Open Source: > No secrets. Proxmox Backup Server is free and open-source software. > The source code is licensed under AGPL, v3. > > Support: > Enterprise support will be available from Proxmox. > > And of course - Backups can be restored! > > Release notes > https://pbs.proxmox.com/wiki/index.php/Roadmap > > Download > https://www.proxmox.com/downloads > Alternate ISO download: > http://download.proxmox.com/iso > > Documentation > https://pbs.proxmox.com > > Community Forum > https://forum.proxmox.com > > Source Code > https://git.proxmox.com > > Bugtracker > https://bugzilla.proxmox.com > > FAQ > Q: How does this integrate into Proxmox VE? > A: Just add your Proxmox Backup Server storage as new storage backup > target to your Proxmox VE. Make sure that you have at least > pve-manager 6.2-9 installed. > > Q: What will happen with the existing Proxmox VE backup (vzdump)? > A: You can still use vzdump. The new backup is an additional but very > powerful way to backup and restore your VMs and container. > > Q: Can I already backup my other Debian servers (file backup agent)? > A: Yes, just install the Proxmox Backup Client > (https://pbs.proxmox.com/docs/installation.html#install-proxmox-backup-c= lient-on-debian). > > Q: Are there already backup agents for other distributions? > A: Not packaged yet, but using a statically linked binary should work > in most cases on modern Linux OS (work in progress). > > Q: Is there any recommended server hardware for the Proxmox Backup > Server? > A: Use enterprise class server hardware with enough disks for the > (big) ZFS pool holding your backup data. The Backup Server should be > in the same datacenter as your Proxmox VE hosts. > > Q: Where can I get more information about coming feature updates? > A: Follow the announcement forum, pbs-devel mailing list > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs-devel, and > subscribe to our newsletter https://www.proxmox.com/news. > > Please help us reaching the final release date by testing this beta > and by providing feedback via https://forum.proxmox.com >