From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <mark@shell.tuxis.net> Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (firstgate.proxmox.com [212.224.123.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.proxmox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5246639EB for <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 16:36:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D5A8415BA1 for <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 16:36:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from icewarp.tuxis.nl (icewarp.tuxis.net [IPv6:2a03:7900:2:0:31:3:104:151]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTPS id 4884315B94 for <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 16:36:20 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; t=1594910172; x=1595514972; s=icewarp; d=tuxis.nl; c=relaxed/relaxed; v=1; bh=kGAFQhLqFnT8STw33/2TYuQPrBrraOk/qJ9idjr7gq4=; h=From:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References; b=eITdRNUN1/3txxL/B2W93efBDSJ9lRcFlKqo0YxlB14A2OWfd6PcCwFGn4w/qVvjzU8EBJBLuVChUeNJi2zNO8UXRPqxdKYrDEylAps86vTemuikZhTP6vVdHNYV/bJoC1WzwdW0lNnyzcD5hFmU25kAfx1f+J+hGYMpZnGRees9LB28SzJMk/fD09QhXUduPTRWly5cs37RXq/HaUoPc2rPNIJTCj9LSebT7ypIaaqvz6cMrrQ6L1noHXzR5u8sioDkrCRj4CNVBkdTjSLnM5VyH9gj7k68CPPn8M56e7CIsVGjspW1NQ/pBkTe6RYQNuBlil9IpAxHm74msJea2A== Received: from shell.tuxis.net ([2a03:7900:2:0:31:3:104:134]) by icewarp.tuxis.nl (12.1.1 build 4 DEB9 x64) with SMTP (SSL) id 202007161636110795 for <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 16:36:11 +0200 Received: (nullmailer pid 16922 invoked by uid 1000); Thu, 16 Jul 2020 14:36:11 -0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 16:36:11 +0200 From: Mark Schouten <mark@tuxis.nl> To: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> Message-ID: <20200716143611.hedfflblkfwmr4o7@shell.tuxis.net> References: <c84ac772-d577-27fd-710c-293d8a4baffe@proxmox.com> <c51e8cf4-1c6d-051b-f91d-5d600a566c5a@proxmox.com> <c522fc9b-6b3f-7770-d32a-c1bb47961884@merit.unu.edu> <1514606299.525.1594478405167@webmail.proxmox.com> <16057806.272035.1594737045788.JavaMail.zimbra@odiso.com> <0852a3fa-ab39-d551-5a01-0264687d4b56@proxmox.com> <1788232040.275836.1594761436288.JavaMail.zimbra@odiso.com> <b06df320-fb8b-7627-6d49-96ff59be7aa0@proxmox.com> <mailman.204.1594849027.12071.pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> <20200716101727.n3fueyopc3cvxgtt@olga.proxmox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200716101727.n3fueyopc3cvxgtt@olga.proxmox.com> X-Ripe-Handle: MS8714-RIPE User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) X-CTCH: RefID="str=0001.0A782F1D.5F1065DB.0093,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0"; Spam="Unknown"; VOD="Unknown" X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 AWL -0.259 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS 0.001 From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_NONE 0.001 SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox Backup Server (beta) X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user.lists.proxmox.com> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/options/pve-user>, <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pve-user/> List-Post: <mailto:pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> List-Help: <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user>, <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 14:36:52 -0000 On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:17:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Bumiller wrote: > b) block-based backups > - VMs on PVE > > This stores whole disks, and we include a way to "attach" a disk from > a backup to a VM (may even be hotplugged). Just imagine this like > using a .raw disk image from any other remote storage such as NFS. If > your guest operating system can read it, you can do whatever from > inside the guest. When you say 'we include a way', you mean you are going to include it? This isn't yet available, right? > There's no *direct* support for extracting files from a block device. > There *may* at some point be some way to do this, but we cannot make > any promises there, and it may well just be some predefined VM template > auto-logging into an xfce or gnome session with a file browser open > ready to mount any attached disk ;-) I know UrBackup allows you to do this, even with Windows and networking enabled. -- Mark Schouten | Tuxis B.V. KvK: 74698818 | http://www.tuxis.nl/ T: +31 318 200208 | info@tuxis.nl