From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <aderumier@odiso.com> Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (firstgate.proxmox.com [212.224.123.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.proxmox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16FD062F70 for <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:40:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 08F4F27FA2 for <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:40:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailpro.odiso.net (mailpro.odiso.net [89.248.211.110]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTPS id 2C2AA27F97 for <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:40:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailpro.odiso.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3011E225C987; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:30:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailpro.odiso.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailpro.odiso.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id cHrWyZ-iRwsf; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:30:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailpro.odiso.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160A2225C988; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:30:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mailpro.odiso.com Received: from mailpro.odiso.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailpro.odiso.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id EAj9WFTLFw6z; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:30:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailpro.odiso.net (mailpro.odiso.net [10.1.31.111]) by mailpro.odiso.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D48225C987; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:30:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:30:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexandre DERUMIER <aderumier@odiso.com> To: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> Cc: mj <lists@merit.unu.edu>, Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com> Message-ID: <16057806.272035.1594737045788.JavaMail.zimbra@odiso.com> In-Reply-To: <1514606299.525.1594478405167@webmail.proxmox.com> References: <c84ac772-d577-27fd-710c-293d8a4baffe@proxmox.com> <7d1bd7a4-f47b-4a1a-9278-ff1889508c33@gmail.com> <1768587204.461.1594383204281@webmail.proxmox.com> <450971473.487.1594395714078@webmail.proxmox.com> <aa8534d4-174b-5069-e27b-160b8fb92d72@merit.unu.edu> <c51e8cf4-1c6d-051b-f91d-5d600a566c5a@proxmox.com> <c522fc9b-6b3f-7770-d32a-c1bb47961884@merit.unu.edu> <1514606299.525.1594478405167@webmail.proxmox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.8.12_GA_3866 (ZimbraWebClient - GC83 (Linux)/8.8.12_GA_3844) Thread-Topic: Proxmox Backup Server (beta) Thread-Index: F4suxVjqr0mgOaUz1Nr3FI13M+M+Yw== X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 KAM_DMARC_STATUS 0.01 Test Rule for DKIM or SPF Failure with Strict Alignment RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE -0.0001 Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record URIBL_BLOCKED 0.001 ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [proxmox.com] Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox Backup Server (beta) X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user.lists.proxmox.com> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/options/pve-user>, <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pve-user/> List-Post: <mailto:pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> List-Help: <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user>, <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 14:40:26 -0000 Hi, I don't have tested it yet and read the full docs, but it is possible to do ceph to ceph backup with ceph snapshots (instead q= emu bitmap tracking)? Currently in production, we are backuping like that, with incremental snaps= hot, we keep X snapshots on ceph backup storage by vm, and production ceph clust= er only keep the last snasphot. The main advantage, is that we are only doing a full backup once, then incr= emental backups forever. (and we have checkum verifications,encryption,...) on ceph backup We can restore full block volume, but also selected files with mounting the= volume with nbd. ----- Mail original ----- De: "dietmar" <dietmar@proxmox.com> =C3=80: "Proxmox VE user list" <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>, "mj" <lists@me= rit.unu.edu>, "Thomas Lamprecht" <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com> Envoy=C3=A9: Samedi 11 Juillet 2020 16:40:04 Objet: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox Backup Server (beta) > But how does that work with non-VM client? (some non-VM client systems=20 > run LVM, so lvm could be used to create a snapshot and backup that, for= =20 > example. Does it do that? Will my non-VM mysql backups be consistent?)=20 Currently not, but there are plans to add that for ZFS (any maybe btrfs).= =20 _______________________________________________=20 pve-user mailing list=20 pve-user@lists.proxmox.com=20 https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user=20